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Is there a legal right to collect firewood?
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Round about this time of year The Ranger always gets a query or two about firewood. There's the idea going around, rather conveniently, that there is a legal right for anyone to take fallen wood for firewood.

Alder logs cut in a woodland

A typical enquiry was this one, from Ranger reader Graham:

I understand that common folk such as myself were given the right to collect firewood for personal use from common land as part of the great Magna Carta. Or have these rights gradually disappeared as land has been 'stolen' by the landed gentry?

So, is he right?

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Actually, no. There is no general legal right to collect wood for any purpose. In simple terms, all wood belongs to somebody, normally the person who owns the tree it grew on. In English law, you can't take it away without their permission. It's as simple as that.

The fact that plenty of people do help themselves to fallen wood doesn't make it legally right that they do so. It's a very practical way of getting rid of surplus wood, as any ranger knows. If someone asks you for wood, you have to refuse. But if you don't need logs yourself then rather than sweat and gather all your logs up into the trailer and lug them back to the depot, just pile them neatly by the side of the path. Next morning when you return to the worksite they will have mysteriously evaporated. Very convenient, but not in any way a legal right.

However, as with all these things, there are subtleties to this, and exceptions. Graham, above, alludes to one of these when he mentions common land. There actually can be a right for certain people to collect certain sorts of wood from certain areas of common land. But it's very unusual. One problem is that it's very hard to know what land is common land and what isn't, and who has these rights and who does not. Common land is not the same as public land, for example. Common land is a really complex and arcane area of law. Here's a partial explanation of the common rights to collect wood. However, the reason this is more-or-less irrelevant is because such rights of common are now very rare indeed in England, and if you have such a right you will probably know about it. So assuming you don't have such a right let's forget that.

But what about the Magna Carta? This one is - pardon the pun - an old chestnut. The Telegraph, last October, was trumpeting magnificently about how "the Forestry Commission has scrapped the right, enshrined in the “Great Charter” at Runneymede in 1215, in order to stop people picking firewood from woodland." However it then rather feebly goes on to explain how previously wood-gatherers had to buy a licence to collect wood, and now they can't. So if you're buying a licence, it's not much of a sacred right, is it? Anyway, if you look at the actual document it doesn't say anything of the sort. Still, the Magna Carta is to countryside law debates what Godwin's Law is to much online discussion - if someone won't stop going on about King John and Runnymede it's fairly safe to assume they are barmy and ignore them.

Finally, and not entirely relevantly, there is that splendid bit of law called 'the "Four F's"'. I have blogged about this before. It's a little known but reassuringly archaic fact that under English common law you can normally pick the "Four F's", if growing wild - fruit, fungi, flowers and foliage, for non-commercial use, anywhere where you can legally go. Firewood is not the fifth F, by the way. Sorry. Now this does not mean that people can enter land unlawfully, but in areas where they can lawfully be, for example on a country park, or walking along a right of way, they are entitled to collect and take away the Four Fs. This is a right I exercised myself just before Christmas - I went into a local woodland, open to the public, and collected holly twigs and ivy strands to decorate my house. Actually, as it happens after twelfth night had gone I burnt some of them, so I suppose in a way I was legally collecting fuel for the fire as of right.

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Posted on 8th February 2009 at 9 01 pm
by The Virtual Ranger
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Comment from: The Wildlife Gardener Email
Very interesting reading for someone with a recently-acquired woodburner. I have gone foraging for kindling twigs. And yes - we joked that the 4th F was firewood. But what's the definition of foliage? Are twigs foliage with the leaves fallen off?
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Comment from: The Virtual Ranger [Admin] Email · http://naturenet.net
Foliage, to me, would require that the leaves are attached. But frankly I doubt anyone's going to split hairs to that extent. Not until you start a commercial twig wholesale operation, anyway.
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Comment from: The Wildlife Gardener Email
Now there's a business idea!
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Comment from: Geoff (Jaef) Email
Common land and rights of common, eg estovers (right to collect wood) are relatively easy to identify since they should be registered under the Commons Registration Act 1965, the Commons (Rectification of Registers) Act 1989 and now the Commmons Act 2006. Local authorities keep the registers, eg county councils.
Many mistakes were made from 1965 - hence the latest attempt to put things right is underway (2006 Act).

The Ranger responds: this is true - but I wouldn't say it was easy for the average person on the ground. It remains pretty difficult to know what commoning rights exist and what is common land without specifically seeking out the definitive answer in this way. If you're out looking for wood you might not have had the foresight to have consulted the Commons Registration Authority in advance for every site you visit.
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Comment from: Geoff (Jaef) Email
The right to roam legislation (CROW Act 2000) enables members of the public to roam on "open land" but not where types of land access are restricted. However, whilst you may be right about the four Fs under common law, you may be in breach of statute law if you pick wild flowers. Generally, wild plants are protected from being dug up and certain flowers, if not all, are protected, eg wild orchids

The Ranger responds: I didn't go into that as the post would have gone over the page! But yes, you are right, CROW access land is included and by using the new right of access you do take with you your right to collect the Four Fs. But other statutory provisions can over-ride that right, for example the Wildlife and Countryside Act would indeed make it an offence to pick any Schedule 8 plant; and it is in any case illegal under that Act to without the owners consent uproot any wild plant regardless of species. But not all orchids are protected, despite what people think.
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Comment from: mark francis (aka. Streona) Email
I think that the right to collect firewood etc. was a specific right attached to the ownership of various properties which gave "commoners" rights to collect wood, exercise their pigs or whatever, but the point is that "Commoner" did not mean just anybody, as people probably mistakenly imagine.
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Comment from: Geoff (Jaef) Email
Mark
You are right and the 'commoner' is the owner of the property to which the right of common is attached. The owner collects his or her wood from the common land - which is owned by another 'person'.

In the past rights of common could be severed from the property by: a) selling it without the right - the commoner retains the right or b) by selling the right of common (severing it from the land. They became 'rights in gross'

Nowadays such severance is not allowed under the Commons Act 2006 except in limited circumstances, eg to Natural England. My Common Lands Handbook gives more detail.
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